New to tooning
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New to tooning
Hi,
Getting ready to order a new toon.
Hoping to get a 22 or 25ft Tritoon with 250 4 stroke. I'm looking at the Bennington ESP or Premiere PTX.
My question is If you load a tritoon with 8-10 adults would you go faster with a 22ft or 25ft boat. I'm thinking with that much weight I will be better off with the 25ft because it will have more running surface to lift the toons out of the water.
Getting ready to order a new toon.
Hoping to get a 22 or 25ft Tritoon with 250 4 stroke. I'm looking at the Bennington ESP or Premiere PTX.
My question is If you load a tritoon with 8-10 adults would you go faster with a 22ft or 25ft boat. I'm thinking with that much weight I will be better off with the 25ft because it will have more running surface to lift the toons out of the water.
Dave
2011 250 Sunsation LTD RE W/DL seating
2011 Mercury Verado 250
2002 Chevy 2500 HD Crew Cab
2011 250 Sunsation LTD RE W/DL seating
2011 Mercury Verado 250
2002 Chevy 2500 HD Crew Cab
Re: New to tooning
I don't know about performance wise but if your going to be carrying 8-10 adults regularly the 25 would be better for comfort/breathing room.
I know we love our 22 foot Premier PTX and we have only had 4 adults and 2 children on it so far, during the summer we had the same 22 foot Premier floor plan but in a 2 tube model and usually had 4-8 adults and 2-4 kids with the larger loads sometimes it seemed a little crowded.
I know we love our 22 foot Premier PTX and we have only had 4 adults and 2 children on it so far, during the summer we had the same 22 foot Premier floor plan but in a 2 tube model and usually had 4-8 adults and 2-4 kids with the larger loads sometimes it seemed a little crowded.
Freedom Lovin' gun crazy Redneck
2010 Premier Sunsation LTD 225 PTX
2010 150 HP Mercury Optimax
got rid of POS 2010 Yacht club dual axle triple log trailer
now have a 2012 Shoreland'r dual axle triple log trailer, MUCH NICER
2010 Premier Sunsation LTD 225 PTX
2010 150 HP Mercury Optimax
got rid of POS 2010 Yacht club dual axle triple log trailer
now have a 2012 Shoreland'r dual axle triple log trailer, MUCH NICER
- texaspontoon
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Re: New to tooning
I have a 25' brand new tritoon with a Honda 150. See my performance below 32mph by myself, 25mph loaded. For me it is all about how many people you want take on the boat...on a saturday afternoon. I am allowed 16 people.
If you know you will only want 8-12 people, than a 22' will fly like accross the lake at 50MPH plus I am sure with a 250. Somedays I wish I had the 250, other days I am glad when it is only a 150 (fuel consumption). Right now I burn 10 gph and get 2-3mpg at 4500-6000RPM. A 250 will burn 15-20GPH at that same RPM, and will get you probably 1.5-2mpg. (depending on how fast/hard you run your boat). If you are just putting around the lake at 3000 RPM you will get much better performance that I am getting because you don't have to run wide open to get 25mph like I do.
Good luck, send pictures if you pull the trigger!
If you know you will only want 8-12 people, than a 22' will fly like accross the lake at 50MPH plus I am sure with a 250. Somedays I wish I had the 250, other days I am glad when it is only a 150 (fuel consumption). Right now I burn 10 gph and get 2-3mpg at 4500-6000RPM. A 250 will burn 15-20GPH at that same RPM, and will get you probably 1.5-2mpg. (depending on how fast/hard you run your boat). If you are just putting around the lake at 3000 RPM you will get much better performance that I am getting because you don't have to run wide open to get 25mph like I do.
Good luck, send pictures if you pull the trigger!
Sunrises, Sunsets, God and Country, Family and Friends enjoyed on my 2009 25' Voyager Fish and Cruise Dlx w/ Honda 225 (Top speed 42MPH light, from a 150-225 and added lifting strakes)
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Re: New to tooning
Thanks for the help.
I was leaning toward the 22ft because about 80 % of the time we will have 2 children and 6 adults on deck. The other 20% of the time I will have at least 8 adults and 2 children. On a rare occasion we may have 10 adults.
It was so crowded on my old 19 ft bow rider boat. I always had 6 adults and two children and we were packed and could hardly move around. Then you add 3 towel bags, food baskets, rafts, tubes, and three coolers it was a mess.
The 25ft model is only $700 more dollars so initial cost is not an issue but I hate to give up speed or worse MPG.
I was leaning toward the 22ft because about 80 % of the time we will have 2 children and 6 adults on deck. The other 20% of the time I will have at least 8 adults and 2 children. On a rare occasion we may have 10 adults.
It was so crowded on my old 19 ft bow rider boat. I always had 6 adults and two children and we were packed and could hardly move around. Then you add 3 towel bags, food baskets, rafts, tubes, and three coolers it was a mess.
The 25ft model is only $700 more dollars so initial cost is not an issue but I hate to give up speed or worse MPG.
Dave
2011 250 Sunsation LTD RE W/DL seating
2011 Mercury Verado 250
2002 Chevy 2500 HD Crew Cab
2011 250 Sunsation LTD RE W/DL seating
2011 Mercury Verado 250
2002 Chevy 2500 HD Crew Cab
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margaritaman
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Re: New to tooning
Get the 25'. The speed and gas between the two would not vary much if it had the same horsepower engine. 10 persons on a 22' gets really crowded when you add all the beer coolers. 
Cruising the salt waters of East Florida.
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dockholiday
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Re: New to tooning
Welcome
If you are routinely carrying 6 to 10 people I would go with the 25'. I would just try to make of the diff in speed between the two by hp. You an your passengers will be much more happy. Both models you mentioned already have the lifting strakes factored in and are a good choice.
doc
If you are routinely carrying 6 to 10 people I would go with the 25'. I would just try to make of the diff in speed between the two by hp. You an your passengers will be much more happy. Both models you mentioned already have the lifting strakes factored in and are a good choice.
doc
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Re: New to tooning
We have a 25' Premier Escapade with the 30" PTX. I say go with the 25, even though we usually have 4 adults and maybe a kid or two we are really glad we went with the 25 footer. The extra room for storage, people capacity etc is well worth the extra cost of the 25 over the 22. Of course, we do lose a little seating room having the captains chairs up front, but boy are those seat great and it's the seats people sit in most.
the size motor and size PTX depends on what you want to do, if you want to ski, zip across the lake, etc I would go with at least 200hp and more if you can afford it. Note: the premier guys recommended the 30" PTX if your motor was less than 200hp, over 200 they recommend the 36. I was right in the middle and since we already were spending more than we wanted we went with the 30". Our lake is small and we mainly fish and slow cruise so the 36" and it's larger fuel tank wasn't too big of a deal.
Note: with 9 large guys on the boat during a recent demo we only got the boat to 23 mph, but we do run at 5500' elevation so we lose power to altitude. yesterday with just me and a full tank I ran 33. I was watching my fuel burn yesterday and at WOT I burn 20gph, back thing down to 3500 to 4k rpm (I think it was) I was burning 5.1-5.5 gph and was running low to mid 20s for speed.
the size motor and size PTX depends on what you want to do, if you want to ski, zip across the lake, etc I would go with at least 200hp and more if you can afford it. Note: the premier guys recommended the 30" PTX if your motor was less than 200hp, over 200 they recommend the 36. I was right in the middle and since we already were spending more than we wanted we went with the 30". Our lake is small and we mainly fish and slow cruise so the 36" and it's larger fuel tank wasn't too big of a deal.
Note: with 9 large guys on the boat during a recent demo we only got the boat to 23 mph, but we do run at 5500' elevation so we lose power to altitude. yesterday with just me and a full tank I ran 33. I was watching my fuel burn yesterday and at WOT I burn 20gph, back thing down to 3500 to 4k rpm (I think it was) I was burning 5.1-5.5 gph and was running low to mid 20s for speed.
2010 25' Premier Escapade with PTX
200hp Mercury Verado
200hp Mercury Verado
Re: New to tooning
Go the 25 ft. you won't be sorry. Just because you have 200 horses doesn't mean you have to run them all wide open. Just nice to have when/if you need or want them.
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Chuck
24 Ft Aqua Patio Executive Cruiser
50 HP Johnson
06 GMC Sierra Crew Cab
Roscommon, MI
Chuck
24 Ft Aqua Patio Executive Cruiser
50 HP Johnson
06 GMC Sierra Crew Cab
Roscommon, MI
Re: New to tooning
bigger is always better!!
Welcome!
1999 Voyager 21' Express Fish triple toon 115hp Mercury (SOLD)
2004 Ford F150 SuperCrew
Boise Idaho
2004 Ford F150 SuperCrew
Boise Idaho
Re: New to tooning
I finally did it. I went with the 2011 Premier 250 Sunsation LTD with 36in PTX, DL seating, and Mercury Verado 250 XL.
Dave
2011 250 Sunsation LTD RE W/DL seating
2011 Mercury Verado 250
2002 Chevy 2500 HD Crew Cab
2011 250 Sunsation LTD RE W/DL seating
2011 Mercury Verado 250
2002 Chevy 2500 HD Crew Cab
- lakerunner
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Re: New to tooning
Welcome and congrats but untill we see pic's it just a rumor
Loyd & Betty Meeks
Livin the lake life
2004 Tracker 22 Regency/2010 90 E-Tec. Pulled by Ford 2020 F 250,
McAlester, Oklahoma
Home lake is Tenkiller
Livin the lake life
2004 Tracker 22 Regency/2010 90 E-Tec. Pulled by Ford 2020 F 250,
McAlester, Oklahoma
Home lake is Tenkiller
Re: New to tooning
I Just ordered it and will not have any photos until it comes in January.
Dave
2011 250 Sunsation LTD RE W/DL seating
2011 Mercury Verado 250
2002 Chevy 2500 HD Crew Cab
2011 250 Sunsation LTD RE W/DL seating
2011 Mercury Verado 250
2002 Chevy 2500 HD Crew Cab
Re: New to tooning
you're going to be one happy camper!
2010 25' Premier Escapade with PTX
200hp Mercury Verado
200hp Mercury Verado
Re: New to tooning
Congratulations on the new boat.... Look forward to seeing pics when you get it...
Roland & Jo
2010 Bennington 20 Sfi
Yamaha 75 4 Stroke
Shreveport, Louisiana
2010 Bennington 20 Sfi
Yamaha 75 4 Stroke
Shreveport, Louisiana
Re: New to tooning
Congrats on the boat, I am sure you will enjoy it.
Freedom Lovin' gun crazy Redneck
2010 Premier Sunsation LTD 225 PTX
2010 150 HP Mercury Optimax
got rid of POS 2010 Yacht club dual axle triple log trailer
now have a 2012 Shoreland'r dual axle triple log trailer, MUCH NICER
2010 Premier Sunsation LTD 225 PTX
2010 150 HP Mercury Optimax
got rid of POS 2010 Yacht club dual axle triple log trailer
now have a 2012 Shoreland'r dual axle triple log trailer, MUCH NICER
