Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#16 Post by smltooner » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:59 pm

Bob, you really don't want to go there!!!!
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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#17 Post by badmoonrising » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:14 pm

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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#18 Post by BobG » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:34 am

curtiscapk wrote:Oh hell bob what have u done :shock: :shock: :shock: :wink: Pop :scared :box
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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#19 Post by HandymanHerb » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:05 am

You wouldn't believe how many times we went over this topic over the last ten years, it was a big no no to say anything bad about them on the other forum because he was a paying for ads.

He just made claims for better fuel mileage, gain 10 mph, smoother ride, which all should have been easy to prove with before and after numbers, which is all we asked for and we never got.

Welding them on a toon voids the warranty, was a big thing they didn't want to cover with a good answer.

So no a red button issue, just a horse that been rode to death many times over :deadhorse :deadhorse :deadhorse

So just say NO to tap fins !!!
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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#20 Post by BobG » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:08 am

HandymanHerb wrote:So just say NO to tap fins !!!
Hey, once I realized what I had started I would have deleted the thread, but see that it's not an option on this forum, so no HGTD for me!

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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#21 Post by lakerunner » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:31 am

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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#22 Post by wrd1972 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:49 am

I dont even see how these things are expected to work. I dont see how they can make the boat plane like the NV strakes do on my boat which net me big time gains. Are the tap fins supposed to "lift" the boat when they catch the spray from the logs plowing through the water?
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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#23 Post by playcat » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:59 am

Basically its a 6 inch wide aluminum angle attached too high up to actually do anything, except act as a big spray rail. Because they have very little design strength and are unsupported, the pieces have to be a much thicker and heavier stock than typical strakes, which takes away from capacity and performance. No great science here.
Can they be attached with epoxy? Sure, but I doubt they will stay on...would you lift your toon with a strap you put on with epoxy? Epoxy, especially WEST sytems stuff, is great, but some jobs are beyond its limitations. My pontoons are foam-filled, so welding is not a good option.
Another issue is adding 6 inches of metal flaps in the outside of an 8 foot 6 inch wide boat makes it 9 feet wide and now requires an oversize permit to legally trailer. And you can forget those nice trailer guides that made loading a lot easier, as they will fold up your flap tins.
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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#24 Post by BobG » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:37 am

playcat wrote:And you can forget those nice trailer guides that made loading a lot easier, as they will fold up your flap tins.
Yeah, I saw THAT one coming! Sheesh!
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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#25 Post by HandymanHerb » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:17 pm

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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#26 Post by ronb » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:02 pm

I tapped a Fin once... her Dad was not happy...

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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#27 Post by Texoma Toon » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:04 pm

ronb wrote:I tapped a Fin once... her Dad was not happy...
Now that kind of Fin would probably be smooth riding, handle well, but would still void my warranty with my better half. :donno
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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#28 Post by MacToon » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:32 pm

So I think the short answer to the original question is "No". :biggrin2

He shore does have hisself a purdy website, though - testimonials from world-class retired engineers and ever'thing!
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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#29 Post by BobG » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:50 am

MacToon wrote:testimonials from world-class retired engineers and ever'thing!
Yeah, but they're MOTOR engineers, not HULL engineers. It's easy to look at it and say, "wow, 37 years with Mercury Marine", but can he evaluate the relative hydrodynamics (I'm guessing that's a word, like aerodynamics) of a lifting strake, compared to a "ballerina skirt fin"? Just because I built part of the Hubble Space Telescope (and the piece I built is now in the Smithsonian!), does not make me an authority on extravehicular survivability in the tail of a comet!

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Re: Anybody Here tried TAP Fins?

#30 Post by WILD MAN » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:52 am

BobG wrote:
MacToon wrote:testimonials from world-class retired engineers and ever'thing!
Yeah, but they're MOTOR engineers, not HULL engineers. It's easy to look at it and say, "wow, 37 years with Mercury Marine", but can he evaluate the relative hydrodynamics (I'm guessing that's a word, like aerodynamics) of a lifting strake, compared to a "ballerina skirt fin"? Just because I built part of the Hubble Space Telescope (and the piece I built is now in the Smithsonian!), does not make me an authority on extravehicular survivability in the tail of a comet!
Yes hydrodynamics is a word, but I'm not sure about extravehicular survivability :donno :rofl
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