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Hydraulic steering help needed

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:06 am
by bansil
SO my toon steers like crap and I plan to move/rebuild a console for it

My current cable is twice as long as it needs to be and it is hard to steer because of all the bends in it.

SO I either need to figure out what I have and get a shorter cable or go Hydraulic (it steers to hard for my wife to drive it)

1000's of options for steering, where to start?

Re: Hydraulic steering help needed

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:45 pm
by bansil
So have been emailing back and forth with seastar (very helpful) BUT they have never done a mount for my engine/pontoon so they can not "recommend a kit" which from a liabilty stand point I under stand

I will look over several set ups and order parts and make a mount probably

Re: Hydraulic steering help needed

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:42 pm
by Marc K
I have no experience at all with outboards - my small 115hp is my first. I want to know more about this so I will be watching and learning as usual around here!

Re: Hydraulic steering help needed

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:51 pm
by TWB
bansil wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:06 am

My current cable is twice as long as it needs to be and it is hard to steer because of all the bends in it.
When I went through the problem and replacement of mine, the two techs I spoke with were adamant that the cable needed to be no more than 1' longer than needed. I think you would be fine with a new steering cable of the correct length. Measuring for the correct length was not hard -- I did it a couple of different ways to make sure I was as close as I felt I could be. Measure from the motor steering rod along the length of the hull to the console, up to the helm at the wheel. Do it twice. Add 6-12".

The hardest part of all is installing the bitch! Mine was wrapped all entwined with the other electric wiring.

Just :2cents

Re: Hydraulic steering help needed

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:07 pm
by TWB
This video gave me a good understanding. The guy is boring and talks too damn much :roll: , and it's not a pontoon, but it will really help with learning the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ8UruO-_a0

Re: Hydraulic steering help needed

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:18 pm
by bansil
Yeah spent better part of day researching...ugh...working and I think just a new correct cable will be fine.

Been a long 4 months, nothing done on boat...hell she is dtill in the water.

Carbs drained and gas is old...and still need to do a console build and that will affect the cable length for sure.

We are working on lake side land and slip so I haven't done anything, except but new fishing licenses :mrgreen:

Is the steering wheel taper pretty much universal?

I hate mine and a cable/helm swap will fix that with new wheel.

No mention in specs about said taper.

I drive around the lake twice a day...I miss the water, can't wait for wa weather :thumbsup

Re: Hydraulic steering help needed

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:37 pm
by TWB
bansil wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:18 pm

Is the steering wheel taper pretty much universal?
I don't know that answer. I THINK it is. Mine was old helm off/new helm on... same wheel so no issue. The helm shaft seems pretty standard.

I hear you on the anxiousness. I look at mine hanging in the lift every day. :cry: We've had a day here & there that were very tempting to take her out, but had no water under her -- tide changes. Maybe soon.

Good luck, ol' buddy! :thumbsup

Re: Hydraulic steering help needed

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:50 pm
by brumbyvet
I'm very happy with the baystar hydraulic system that came on my boat. It is rated for up to 150 hp.

Re: Hydraulic steering help needed

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 11:59 pm
by Bugsbunnyboater
My old Bennington was hard to steer with my cable setup. So I went with a baystar and the change took about an hr.
Would had been faster but had a few frozen bolts. I love the feel of it. Baystar is great.