Do People Really Want Help or Advice........
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Do People Really Want Help or Advice........
Do people really want help or maybe advice on the best way to repair or fix something about their boat. Or do they just want others to agree on some band-aid solution that may or may not fix anything with and satisfactory results. I've noticed that a few folks that posted here were seemingly disappointed with advice that folks gave them here, so they are searching for folks elsewhere that will go along with their proposed band-aid solution to their question. Here's and example here:http://www.pontoonstuff.com/forum/forum ... p?TID=5200 and here: http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=391973.
I know a lot of folks here try to take the time to post reasonable answers to peoples questions. And often there is more ways than one to satisfactorily fix or resolve an issue. But geeze a guy with potential colander pontoons madly searching for someone to agree with him about painting them and his boat will then be safe for his family!!! And who would think installing a couple U bolts would be such an issue!!!! I mean what is the costs, $15 bucks and twenty minutes or so. I guess I need to start drinking more of the cool-aid and just go along with them for the ride.
I know a lot of folks here try to take the time to post reasonable answers to peoples questions. And often there is more ways than one to satisfactorily fix or resolve an issue. But geeze a guy with potential colander pontoons madly searching for someone to agree with him about painting them and his boat will then be safe for his family!!! And who would think installing a couple U bolts would be such an issue!!!! I mean what is the costs, $15 bucks and twenty minutes or so. I guess I need to start drinking more of the cool-aid and just go along with them for the ride.
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2007 90 hp. Yamaha
Re: Do People Really Want Help or Advice........
I did read your posted example threads and think better advise was given here. I think BMR nailed the paint issue. That said, I don't see any harm in getting as much information as you can.
The problem I do have is when people are posting questions everywhere in oder to pump a product they sell.
Those other sites are very boring too. Free speech rules.
The problem I do have is when people are posting questions everywhere in oder to pump a product they sell.
Those other sites are very boring too. Free speech rules.
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Re: Do People Really Want Help or Advice........
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Re: Do People Really Want Help or Advice........
Well, since you are using my question as an example, I guess I should chime in . . .
Yes, I posted the towing question on another site and, yes, I asked the question a couple of different ways and used "visual aids" to re-ask the question. There is a reason for this -- I didn't feel that some of the people answering the question fully understood what I was asking. Also, the post started getting sidetracked with comments about tie-off and docking.
I am looking for another way to pull my kids on their tube, not how to tie off my boat. The picture was to try to show what I was going for and see if anyone else had some sound previous experience other than "the tow bar came with the boat". I don't think (and that makes it my opinion) that long-term pulling from the eyelets above the toons is a good idea, therefore, I am looking for a "creative" solution that won't cost me hundreds of dollars.
I read your response concerning putting cleats back there and I appreciate your input. I am not sure that the bolts that secure the cleats would be strong enough to support constant pulling of one or two people over time. Regardless, I do appreciate your response and it gave me a direction to research and find something that will work in the long run.
With that said, it's very easy to comment. It's much harder to suggest -- that requires knowledge. Try to praise in public, and complain in private . . . let the good information help those who are asking themselves the same questions but aren't posting them. That way we all can get some perspective on things and all benefit from other's information.
Yes, I posted the towing question on another site and, yes, I asked the question a couple of different ways and used "visual aids" to re-ask the question. There is a reason for this -- I didn't feel that some of the people answering the question fully understood what I was asking. Also, the post started getting sidetracked with comments about tie-off and docking.
I am looking for another way to pull my kids on their tube, not how to tie off my boat. The picture was to try to show what I was going for and see if anyone else had some sound previous experience other than "the tow bar came with the boat". I don't think (and that makes it my opinion) that long-term pulling from the eyelets above the toons is a good idea, therefore, I am looking for a "creative" solution that won't cost me hundreds of dollars.
I read your response concerning putting cleats back there and I appreciate your input. I am not sure that the bolts that secure the cleats would be strong enough to support constant pulling of one or two people over time. Regardless, I do appreciate your response and it gave me a direction to research and find something that will work in the long run.
With that said, it's very easy to comment. It's much harder to suggest -- that requires knowledge. Try to praise in public, and complain in private . . . let the good information help those who are asking themselves the same questions but aren't posting them. That way we all can get some perspective on things and all benefit from other's information.
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Re: Do People Really Want Help or Advice........
Its all good!
Ive posted questions to see what others thought even though i had my own thoughts on what i was gonna do.
Sometimes i took the advice, others ive gone ahead and done what i was gonna do anyways.
Sometimes ive asked cause i had no idea, and someone on here did and saved me!
So, its prob alittle bit of both....
NOW, for a VERY important question.
WHO LIKES BEER?!
Ive posted questions to see what others thought even though i had my own thoughts on what i was gonna do.
Sometimes i took the advice, others ive gone ahead and done what i was gonna do anyways.
Sometimes ive asked cause i had no idea, and someone on here did and saved me!
So, its prob alittle bit of both....
NOW, for a VERY important question.
WHO LIKES BEER?!
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Re: Do People Really Want Help or Advice........
I can't really get to upset over people shopping other sites for advice on the same issue. As much as I respect the years of experience that this site obviously has it's still wise to do as much research on a topic as possible before making the final decision, regardless if it's about what boat to buy or how to fix a problem. I feel bad for the fella that bought that toon with the wrong kind of bottom paint on it. That's going to cost thousands to replace those toons. If only he had done the same research that he is now doing before he bought that boat. Surely he saw the damage on the toons before he bought it.
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Re: Do People Really Want Help or Advice........
Any one remember Judgepaw on the other site that got mad at me because he didn't like the cheap way I said to make cover weights using 2 liter pop bottles. He wanted to buy fancy hooks that screwed on where lids went. I suggested using an eye bolt through the lid that came with it. He cussed me out and left the site.
As far a pulling tubes using pontoon eyes I do and always will. Been boating for 35 years and have pulled tubes, many boats in trouble and some of them pretty big with no problems. I think factory's and dealers say no to cover their ass if one does break.
As far a pulling tubes using pontoon eyes I do and always will. Been boating for 35 years and have pulled tubes, many boats in trouble and some of them pretty big with no problems. I think factory's and dealers say no to cover their ass if one does break.
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Re: Do People Really Want Help or Advice........
Our dealer actually said it was ok to use the eyes to tow a tube and for some skiing.
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Re: Do People Really Want Help or Advice........
Lol, I like the advice they gave swiss cheese log guy at iBoats. Muriatic acid damage ? Not likely, unless the guy is boating in Muriatic Acid Lake. Not one comment suggesting it's the wrong paint. I to;d the guy like it is because I don't want him or anyone he takes out on that thing to get hurt. If he didn't like my advice, too bad. I never sugarcoat.
Btw, Tracker (factory) informed me those eyelets can't handle side to side stress....I called them myself, bypassing the dealer who didn't have a clue. We don't pull tubes or wakes board, skiers, etc with the pontoon but then again my marina isn't in a no-wake zone and tides can vary 3-5 ft so that's a lot of stress people boating on lakes won't have to deal with.
Btw, Tracker (factory) informed me those eyelets can't handle side to side stress....I called them myself, bypassing the dealer who didn't have a clue. We don't pull tubes or wakes board, skiers, etc with the pontoon but then again my marina isn't in a no-wake zone and tides can vary 3-5 ft so that's a lot of stress people boating on lakes won't have to deal with.
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