HP, RPMs, prop, top speed & broken skeg...

You know the drill..

Moderators: Redneck_Randy, badmoonrising, lakerunner

Post Reply
Message
Author
billyman
Posts: 22
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:36 pm
Location: Nashville, TN

HP, RPMs, prop, top speed & broken skeg...

#1 Post by billyman » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:58 am

Good morning,

I just registered last night & wish I would have a long time ago. Reading everyone's posts is so informative & interesting. On to my question...

I have a 1995 20' Fisher pontoon w/ a 70hp Force w/ a 12.25x9P prop & I seem to run at 15mph (GPS) @ WOT. My RPMs @ full speed seem to run around 4k (+/- 500), but the manual says they should be between 4750 - 5250. In your experience, what prop should I try switching to to get my RPMs closer to 5250 & hopefully net me a few more MPHs?


================================================


On another note, Saturday night I tried backing my trailer up a steep driveway (it was dark & didn't realize how steep it was until it was too late) & broke my skeg off.

Image


- How necessary is this piece to the performance & manuverability of the craft?
- Based on how much is missing, should I try to get it fixed or buy a skeg protector?

Thank you in advance for any advice or experience you can offer.
1995 Fisher 200DLX w/ 2001 70hp Suzuki 4-stroke

mikeherb
Posts: 494
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:23 pm

Re: HP, RPMs, prop, top speed & broken skeg...

#2 Post by mikeherb » Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:31 am

Man, that's a painful picture.

On your prop. Typically you have a 200 RPM change (approximate) for every inch of pitch you change your prop. It's an inverse relationship so for every inch you decrease your pitch, you should gain 200 RPM at WOT. So I would think a 3-4 inch change should get you near your WOT settings for your motor. But, you're already running a 9P so you might be experiencing something else, like a bad tachometer. Perhaps someone else can add some more on this issue for you.

If you have the piece you tore off your motor I would have someone who knows how to weld to weld that back on and a skeg protector might be a good idea. The skeg provides a bit of rudder for your boat, protects your prop and on some motors the skeg is designed to offset prop torque.

dockholiday
Posts: 2916
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:32 pm
Location: Lake Oconee, Ga.

Re: HP, RPMs, prop, top speed & broken skeg...

#3 Post by dockholiday » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:47 am

Welcome billy

That is painful, pretty much agree with sundeck. Try an find a prop shop near you that rebuilds props, sure they can put you in the right direction prop wise. The skeg is a whole other situation. I would check some prices on a repair or replacing the lower unit but given the age and type of motor it might be a better idea trying to find a good used motor. Mechanical work here runs about 100 an hour so it add up quick once you add the parts in. Good Luck and lets us know how you come out.
doc

User avatar
badmoonrising
Site Admin
Posts: 10066
Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:04 pm
Location: Chesapeake City, Maryland

Re: HP, RPMs, prop, top speed & broken skeg...

#4 Post by badmoonrising » Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:29 am

Only thing I have to add is that the prop is pretty badly damaged. That can effect performance big time.
Ed, Cheryl, Ethan and Aspen.
2013 Sun Tracker Party Barge 22 w/90 HP Mercury, "Hellrhighwater 2"
2014 E-350 Extended XLT.
Chesapeake City ,MD

dockholiday
Posts: 2916
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:32 pm
Location: Lake Oconee, Ga.

Re: HP, RPMs, prop, top speed & broken skeg...

#5 Post by dockholiday » Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:46 am

I just ran across this on iboats
http://www.outboardrepairs.com/topics/001773.html

well here is another (not sure how much existing skeg is needed to use this)
http://shop.keelshield.com/index.php?ma ... ex&cPath=1

billyman
Posts: 22
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:36 pm
Location: Nashville, TN

Re: HP, RPMs, prop, top speed & broken skeg...

#6 Post by billyman » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:51 am

Thank you all for your advice, suggestions & condolences.
This is an awesome forum.
1995 Fisher 200DLX w/ 2001 70hp Suzuki 4-stroke

dockholiday
Posts: 2916
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:32 pm
Location: Lake Oconee, Ga.

Re: HP, RPMs, prop, top speed & broken skeg...

#7 Post by dockholiday » Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:56 am

billyman wrote:Thank you all for your advice, suggestions & condolences.
This is an awesome forum.
Good luck to you and let us know how you come out.
doc

schmir
Posts: 67
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:46 am
Location: Streator, IL

Re: HP, RPMs, prop, top speed & broken skeg...

#8 Post by schmir » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:39 am

I just had my skeg repaired. They told me for aluminum welding they would charge $1 per minute. They ended up charging me $20. Mine was not as bad as yours thought. I would get a new prop that not all chewed up and save that one for your spare. Or file it down to smooth. That might help you out a little. Good luck!
23ft 2007 Parti Kraft, 115hp Yamaha 4 stroke on the Mighty Vermilion River!

Post Reply