help keeping logs clean to keep performance

[tooning around]

Mr Badmoon, Lets be real; you tryed to get a FREE set of fins for your 32 ft. pontoon house boat which was totally out of the original testing perameter for the fin system. Standard sizes are available for 20-24 and 28 ft. for pontoon boats not house boats and Conrad delivered on their offer. By the way your claim that the fins void the tube warranty is also inaccurate. It is a violation of Federal Law for a manufacturer to declare that something WILL void the warranty. They are allowed to state that it MAY violate the warranty if the mfg. can show substandard work or a defective product actually caused a failure. Your rant about price is also misleading. You keep stating that the fins are way overpriced and really they start at $675.00 for a 20 ft. up to a $1000.00 for the SS package. You misquote, misquote, misquote!!!
Now, Goofy (Malcolm) may not be the most articulate guy I ever met but the fins actually work and thats what really counts. Case in point: The little known fact that Einstein used his gut instinct and hated math. He had to have a colleague put his miraculous theorys into number equations. Thanks for this opportunity to set the record straight.
There is no doubt that the TAP fins are less expensive, much easier to maintain and way more efficent than the Strakes so get over it.

Skippy

[Parasympathetic]

Goofy is now equating himself to Einstein........

My brain just exploded.

[wish2fish]

didn't tooning around say he wasn't affilliated with TAP fins????? seems to know a lot of the issues related to the other forum. I don't think tooning around is goofy though. spelling and grammar is much better. He also calls BMR Mr Badmoon....not Badnoon!

Iteresting though someone related to Conrad Marine would come over to this site though.

[badmoonrising]

Mr Badmoon, Lets be real; you tryed to get a FREE set of fins for your 32 ft. pontoon house boat which was totally out of the original testing perameter for the fin system.

OK, we are calling you Skippy now, Malcom ?. Can I call you Jiff I ? That's my brand of peanut butter. (I detect peanut butter brand trolls headed our way,

Say what ???? First of all Malcom, I never asked for a pair of your Tap Fins, ever. I'd never lower the resale value of my Party Cruiser and void it's hull warranty by welding anything to it's logs. I have no idea where Goofy came up with the idea I ever asked for Tap Fins. This made me roffle, btw. I wouldn't take them, EVEN for free. I challenge you to post up where and when I ever asked for a free pair of Tap Fins.

Lie #1 busted. Everyone read what he posted regarding this at PDB.

Standard sizes are available for 20-24 and 28 ft. for pontoon boats not house boats and Conrad delivered on their offer.

Delivered on their offer ??? What exactly did Conrad "offer"? I wasn't the one at PDB who was offered a free set (again I would have declined, don't want 'em). I forget who it was that agreed to put a set on his 'toon there, but Malcom reneged PUBLICLY on that deal, further embarrassing himself.

Lie #2 busted. Again, everyone read what he posted regarding this at PDB.

By the way your claim that the fins void the tube warranty is also inaccurate.

.

Your are wrong, once again. I scanned and posted the page where my Tracker hull warranty states:

" Any welds or modifications to the pontoon logs shall deem Tracker's hull warranty void" or something to that effect. I can scan it again for you if you'd like, but I wasted my time posting it at PDB the first time.


Lie #3 busted.

It is a violation of Federal Law for a manufacturer to declare that something WILL void the warranty.

Wrong again. Not changing engine oil, not doing routine maintenance WILL void any warranty, marine or automotive. Being an ASE certified diesel AND automotive mechanic AND working as shop foreman for years, I've seen many warranty claims denied for abuse/modifications/neglect. Some have gone to court and the owner lost EVERY time.

Lie #4 busted.

They are allowed to state that it MAY violate the warranty if the mfg. can show substandard work or a defective product actually caused a failure.

First part of this was proven wrong above.

Lie #5 busted.

Second part: Malcom's photos he posted at PDB showed Tap Fins installed with sloppy welds and looked like they were welded on by a blind welder. The Tap Fins he glued on looked even more like shit. Everyone saw this, so yeah, that WAS substandard work, voiding the hull warranty in that case as well.


Lie #6, busted.

Your rant about price is also misleading. You keep stating that the fins are way overpriced and really they start at $675.00 for a 20 ft. up to a $1000.00 for the SS package. You misquote, misquote, misquote!!!

Once again, lie #6 busted...when I came to PDB a few years back, Conrad's Marine's website stated a set for a 28 ft pontoon were about $3500 installed. You have since lowered your prices in an attempt to sell these things.

Don't blame me if no one's buying. Malcom ruining Conrad Marine's reputation by being an asshole and abusing potential customers. Yeah they may START at $675 (for an outer set on a small pontoon). START being the key word there.

Lie #7 busted...

Now, Goofy (Malcolm) may not be the most articulate guy I ever met

Bwhahahahahaha....understatement of the millenium. Goofy/Malcolm has done more to damage Conrad's reputation than you realize. He's the worst representative/salesperson I have ever seen in my life. I could sell these things, he cannot.

Not that I would.

but the fins actually work and thats what really counts.

Oh really, then how come he's never agreed to let anyone do an unbiased test (two similarly equipped pontoons, one with and one with out "Fins")? He came to the get together and did not sell a single set or impress anyone there? PDB magazine has never tested them, yet he claims they did on his website. Brady told everyone that PDB NEVER tested them.

I challenged Malcom to bring 2 pontoons, one equipped with Tap Fins, one not up to the Chesapeake Bay during a day when the weather is rough and we'll do a real world, unbiased test. Not in some farm pond that the pontoons are on in his photos.

(See "Chesapeake Challenge" thread at PDB). Malcom once again reneged and then started claiming I asked for a set of Tap Fins instead

Lie #8 busted...

Case in point: The little known fact that Einstein used his gut instinct and hated math. He had to have a colleague put his miraculous theorys into number equations.

Bwhahahahahahahhahaahahhahahaa.......so you are comparing Malcolm, who is clearly developmentally disabled to Einstein. You sir ARE Malcolm, no doubt. Either that or you aren't very bright either.

Thanks for this opportunity to set the record straight.

Sure, but lying hasn't set anything straight.

There is no doubt that the TAP fins are less expensive, much easier to maintain and way more efficent than the Strakes so get over it.

Nope, again that's not true. Cleaning strakes and applying antifouling is thousands of dollars cheaper than Tap Fins. My bottom paint costs $128 every few years and my own labor, Einstein.


At least Einstein was good at math even though he "hated it".

And oh yeah, Tracker tech support told me that painting the bottom was required to maintain my hull warranty, so I guess they violated federal law ????

What a complete tool you are, Skippymalcomwinniethepooplutogoofy.

[badmoonrising]

didn't tooning around say he wasn't affilliated with TAP fins????? seems to know a lot of the issues related to the other forum. I don't think tooning around is goofy though. spelling and grammar is much better. He also calls BMR Mr Badmoon....not Badnoon!

Iteresting though someone related to Conrad Marine would come over to this site though.

His registration info says different. He forgets I can check that here. His spelling is just as bad as Malcom's, so maybe they went to the same school BillofSC teaches at ??

[badmoonrising]

tryed perameter theorys efficent

Einstein could spell, Einstein.

[wwind3]

""""""""""""""""""""Now, Goofy (Malcolm) may not be the most articulate guy I ever met but the fins actually work and thats what really counts. Case in point: The little known fact that Einstein used his gut instinct and hated math. He had to have a colleague put his miraculous theorys into number equations. Thanks for this opportunity to set the record straight."""""""""""""""""""""""""""""


Dunno know about this one-----bet ole Stein hisself could have been able to formulate E=mc2(mcsquared) w/o the help of a colleague. As can my fourth grade grandaughter......


Even if he wuz from New Joizey.......

[WaltF]

Goofy is now equating himself to Einstein........

My brain just exploded.

NO DOUBT!
i just threwup in my mouth alittle bit.

Comparing yourself to Einstein? Holy Shit...

[badmoonrising]

I'd still like to know how he came up with the idea that I ever wanted a free pair of Tap Fins.

[Parasympathetic]

I'd still like to know how he came up with the idea that I ever wanted a free pair of Tap Fins.

Malcom is a genious, just like Einstein's assistant. So he knows what you want, even if you don't. He sensed you needed a smoother ride for you wheel chair bound buddies. Now he senses you need something to clean your toons with.

Anyway, It's a little known fact that Einstein was an idiot, just ask Goofy. Einstein couldn't spell "energy", so he just would use "E".

[OldePharte]

Tooning Around - Owned!

Bad Moon - if I ever go to traffice court, will you go with me?

[badmoonrising]

Sure.

[badmoonrising]

Hey "Skippy" aka Tooning around/Malcom:

"I don't get to read these forums very often cause I'm always working or doing something important and I never post. However, I'm surprised to see all the negativity, especially among those that don't seem to know what they're talking about. I'm from Wisconsin and cruise among the friendliest, most partying bunch of folks in the USA. A couple of years ago I bought a 24 ft. Aqua Patio with a Johnson 90 Hp 2-stroke. It's a great deck boat (partying square footage) and all. I was just a little bit disappointed in the performance and not altogether happy with the fact that I couldn't keep up with the big cruisers. It's more like a plow. I figured that it was just the nature of the beast and that I would end up being late to the poker run every year. It was shortly thereafter that my girlfriend and I were stunned by a pontoon boat that flew past us like we were standing still. Not only was it flying but it had maneuverability and turned like no pontoon boat I had ever seen, with six people on it. Later that same day we pulled up to the "Bridge Bar" in Freemont Wisconsin; that boat was there and I noticed the 200 Hp Mercury on the back.
Long story shorter, the owner was a guy called Goofy and his boat was equipped with a special set of fins that allowed the unusual speed and maneuverability. My first question to him was, would they work with my 90? Turns out they do and now I get an additional 4 knots and a lot better mileage. In fact, I cut my gas bill by 1/3 and I can keep up with the party animals.
Now, Goofy may not be the most articulate guy I ever met but the fins "get er done". Case in point: The little known fact that Einstein used his gut and instinct and hated math. He preferred to have a colleague put his marvelous theory's into number equations. I think Goofy had great instincts because his fins really work. It irritates me when you rocket scientists spew poison about what is probably the best development for pontoon performance in this decade. Thanks for the opportunity to set the record straight.

Skippy"

You posted this at PDB, thanks for the laughs.

[WaltF]

OMG......
Malcom, you are serious grade A entertainment!!
I havent laughed this hard in 10 years!!
Unreal......Hahaha!!

[badmoonrising]