Yet ANOTHER Ski/Tow Bar-need specs

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Yet ANOTHER Ski/Tow Bar-need specs

#1 Post by tuned » Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:39 pm

I am working on my South Bay (sort of) 925tt i/o. It did not come with a tow bar and I am hoping to make one. The mounts are there and I just need to bend one up. I have a muffler guy that thinks his machine is stought enough to do the work.
I can source stainless tube (1 1/2" OD) without much problem. I just need to know the wall thickness. I'm guessing 1/8" (.125) to maybe 3/16.
Can anyone with a removable FACTORY tow bar please take a look and send me the spec? It wouldn't even have to be South Bay brand. I just need a starting point.

Not only do I plan to ski behind this beast, the bar is going to become very important as a grab handle back on the swim platform. As I am in the process of fabbing up my sun bench, my railing (where you would normally grab) is about to disappear. The end result without a grab handle is likely to be :drink4 SPLOOSH!
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#2 Post by Liberty MO » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:29 am

Im not sure if it's on option, but I really like our Sun Tracker's ski pylon as opposed to a large bar. It's completely removable just by unscrewing it from the base.

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#3 Post by Capt Sully » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:34 am

I looked and I can't remove the factory installed tow bar. it looks and feels very strong heavy and thick. note the brace, you will need to add that. Good luck with your build.
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#4 Post by Bamaman » Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:03 pm

You can buy one like above on EBay for $250-275. Looks like the tow bar on my Bennie at twice the cost.
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#5 Post by PlaynDoc » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:28 pm

Liberty MO wrote:Im not sure if it's on option, but I really like our Sun Tracker's ski pylon as opposed to a large bar. It's completely removable just by unscrewing it from the base.

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Never did lay my eyes upon a ski pylon on a pontoon.... What weight/strength is it rated?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the primary reason for having the traditional tow bars on the pontoon, is so you can fully tilt/trim the motor, without hitting anything... and also for more strength...
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#6 Post by tuned » Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:39 pm

Thanks guys for the input.
But I don't want any aftermarket stuff. My swim platform is likely too weak to mount anything.
As I mentioned, the mounts for the SouthBay style bar are already THERE and look very stought. All I need to do is bend a single pipe to shape and I am done. I have seen pictures of this bar and it isn't even braced (hence the thick walled pipe). I just checked the gauge of the pipe on my boat that is used as a mount and it is 1/8". So the pipe I need is at least that heavy if not a bit more.
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#7 Post by Liberty MO » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:39 am

PlaynDoc wrote:
Liberty MO wrote:Im not sure if it's on option, but I really like our Sun Tracker's ski pylon as opposed to a large bar. It's completely removable just by unscrewing it from the base.

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Never did lay my eyes upon a ski pylon on a pontoon.... What weight/strength is it rated?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the primary reason for having the traditional tow bars on the pontoon, is so you can fully tilt/trim the motor, without hitting anything... and also for more strength...
It solid billet aluminum rated at 1000 lbs or 300hp, whatever that means. The motor trims all the way up without coming close to the pylon. It screws into a socket welled to the frame that goes about 6" deep. Seems rock solid pulling 3 adults on a Super Mabel.
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#8 Post by woolznaz » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:10 pm

Tuned,
Is this one like the one you are fabricating? If so, I can try to get some measurements for you later this week. It does remove simply by pulling out two thick cotter pins.
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#9 Post by tuned » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:55 pm

woolznaz wrote:Tuned,
Is this one like the one you are fabricating? If so, I can try to get some measurements for you later this week. It does remove simply by pulling out two thick cotter pins.
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Yep, that is indeed the one. I just couldn't find a shot of it. The only spec I really need is the gauge of the tubing if you would be so kind. Thank you, thank you, thank you :bowdown
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#10 Post by woolznaz » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:47 am

Tuned,
It looks to me like the thickness of the steel is about 1/16". It was kind of hard to hold the tape steady and still take the picture, but here you go. From this angle, the picture makes it look like it could be a little heavier, but when I put the camera down and carefully measured, it looked like about 1/16". I know that is all you were asking for, but I took a couple of other pictures that might be helpful for your project. I'm happy to email them to you if you want. Shoot me a PM and I'll send them your way if you are interested.
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#11 Post by Cycleman07 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:07 am

woolznaz wrote:Tuned,
It looks to me like the thickness of the steel is about 1/16". It was kind of hard to hold the tape steady and still take the picture, but here you go. From this angle, the picture makes it look like it could be a little heavier, but when I put the camera down and carefully measured, it looked like about 1/16". I know that is all you were asking for, but I took a couple of other pictures that might be helpful for your project. I'm happy to email them to you if you want. Shoot me a PM and I'll send them your way if you are interested.
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yep...1/16 is correct from my understanding. Be careful on the eye part where the rope attaches. Needs to be welded by a pro. My South Bay tow bar is incredibly strong and the welds on the eye are incredibly thick.
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#12 Post by tuned » Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:15 pm

Wow. I can't believe 1/16 is strong enough, but the picture doesn't lie. Think I'll go 3/32 just to be sure.
Woolz, I am pm-ing you my email. I'll take all the info I can get. Thanks guys.
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#13 Post by woolznaz » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:35 am

Tuned,
I received your PM and emailed the other photos. Let me know if you do not get the email. Also, reply back if you decide any other photos/specs would be helpful. Good luck.
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#14 Post by ronb » Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:25 pm

Well this all makes me feel better about mine.. I used 1/8" tubing and the center foot where the rope loop is double walled... 1/4" thick and welded with a few rosettes along the way.
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But not very stock looking... it also was bent by a local muffler shop. He didn't have dies that went down to 1.5" though, so they aren't quite perfect. Something to think about.
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#15 Post by tuned » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:34 pm

ronb wrote:Well this all makes me feel better about mine.. I used 1/8" tubing and the center foot where the rope loop is double walled... 1/4" thick and welded with a few rosettes along the way.

But not very stock looking... it also was bent by a local muffler shop. He didn't have dies that went down to 1.5" though, so they aren't quite perfect. Something to think about.

Where the heck ya been ron? Questions: When you say double walled, do you mean an inside tube? I can't tell if this is stainless or not. Finally, my exhaust guy says that without a 'sand-filled' bending setup, he will get a couple of creases at the 90 degree bends. I can't quite tell if yours did this or not. If they are on the inside of the bends, I could live with that.
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