Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#16 Post by ORAA1997 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:56 am

I have no idea. I guess its the same prop that came with the engine and boat. What would be a good pitch for this boat??
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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#17 Post by trott46 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:01 am

from what i see only differenc in our toons is i have a third log and mine is a few years older i have a 15p prop and is perfect if you look at the numbers on your prop it will end in a number and a p that is the oitch im geussing it is probly a 13
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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#18 Post by WaltF » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:35 am

ORAA1997, is your toon an I/O or an Outboard?
You have I/O in your sig, but then list a 115 outboard right below that..
I thought the only I/O engines Sun Tracker put in their toons was the 135 hp mercruiser, which is what i have.

There is no single answer to your question, ORAA1997. The answer is 'it depends'.

You need to find out the best prop for YOUR toon.
You first need to find out what WOT RPM is on your engine. Look it up in your manual.
Thats Wide Open Throttle.
Next look on your toon and see what you have. It will be stamped into the prop somewhere..
Mines a 16x13, 16 being the diameter and 13 being the pitch. (Im about to goto a 16x11)
Then you need to get out on the lake and go full boar(WOT) and see if you are able to reach the WOT RPM that was in the manual.
If not, then you need to try another prop, one with less pitch.
Every 1 degrees less in pitch = a gain of about 200 rpm.
Once you have this set right, it will be as fast as your toon will go.
Dont expect to beat a 150 hp bass boat though... heh :rofl

So, the prop that works for YOU will be the one that allows the engine to reach WOT.
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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#19 Post by trott46 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:28 am

I was curious about the i/o or outboard myself. If it has a 115 mercury then its not an i/o
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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#20 Post by GXPWeasel » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:52 am

WaltF wrote:ORAA1997, is your toon an I/O or an Outboard?
You have I/O in your sig, but then list a 115 outboard right below that..
I thought the only I/O engines Sun Tracker put in their toons was the 135 hp mercruiser, which is what i have.

There is no single answer to your question, ORAA1997. The answer is 'it depends'.

You need to find out the best prop for YOUR toon.
You first need to find out what WOT RPM is on your engine. Look it up in your manual.
Thats Wide Open Throttle.
Next look on your toon and see what you have. It will be stamped into the prop somewhere..
Mines a 16x13, 16 being the diameter and 13 being the pitch. (Im about to goto a 16x11)
Then you need to get out on the lake and go full boar(WOT) and see if you are able to reach the WOT RPM that was in the manual.
If not, then you need to try another prop, one with less pitch.
Every 1 degrees less in pitch = a gain of about 200 rpm.
Once you have this set right, it will be as fast as your toon will go.
Dont expect to beat a 150 hp bass boat though... heh :rofl

So, the prop that works for YOU will be the one that allows the engine to reach WOT.
I thought the 1st. number was the dia. and the 2nd. the pitch. I have a 13 1/4 x 17, I was told the 17 was my pitch. :donno
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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#21 Post by trott46 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:28 am

gxp that is the diam and pitch mercury did not label mine like that just a part number and pitch
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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#22 Post by WaltF » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:59 pm

Thats a good question GXPWeasel.
Ive seen them labeled both ways.. not sure why, but ill bet someone in here knows...
My Mercury Black max/Quick silver prop is labeled dia x pitch.

Here is the 16x11 prop i just recently bought from Dan's Discount props:

Mercury - Mariner Outboards. Mercruiser Alpha I,II & Bravo I Sterndrives. 135 HP & Higher Aluminum Propellers

DIAMETER PITCH -> 16x11
PART NUMBER -> QA2000X(48-78112A45)
PRICE -> $96.95
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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#23 Post by margaritaman » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:22 pm

How fast is crawling in the water that you refer to?
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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#24 Post by ORAA1997 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:55 am

OK I fixed the signature. I will have to check out the prop to see the pitch. Thanks for all the great info. One last thing. Would it be a good idea to test out the props on an empty boat or with a normal load?
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#25 Post by ORAA1997 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:57 am

:biggrin2 OK I feel like its crawling on the water. I have rented 50HP pontoons before and mine does not seem any faster that those I rented.
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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#26 Post by dockholiday » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:01 am

I usually check it out on an empty boat, but think the correct way is with the load you will normally be carrying.

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#27 Post by WaltF » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:10 am

My normal load is 12 people, and im never reaching WOT then.. LOL!! :rofl :rofl
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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#28 Post by curtiscapk » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:19 am

Man I am getting confused all you sum bitches have the same boat in your avatar... :rofl :rofl :rofl At least I got their daddy in mine. :lol3 :lol3
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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#29 Post by pepper1126 » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:39 am

I have a Yamaha 115 and I have only taken it out once and with very rough water and the throttle not even pinned, I had that baby up to 29mph. I think its all about the conditions.
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Re: Horsepower vs. boat load capacity help

#30 Post by wed » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:39 pm

Man, I had a reality check this past weekend! I had never been out with the toon heavily loaded. This time I had 1350+ pounds on board. Never got up on the strakes and max speed with best trim and distribution was around 20 MPH GPS, lower in the rough water. I would hate to think what the original 60 HP would have been limited to in this situation.

BUY ALL THE HORSEPOWER YOU CAN UP TO THE LIMIT OF THE BOAT... YOU WILL ONLY REGRET NOT HAVING IT WHEN YOU NEED IT!

It was a great weekend and we are going back this weekend. Hope all of you can get on the water soon.
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